The Model That Solved Rural SPED Services (And You’ve Never Heard of It) – George Welsh

Solved Rural SPED Services

Episode Description

A model that solved small rural school district SPED services serving just a few hundred students that cannot afford their own school psychologists, speech pathologists, or occupational therapists—until they form a cooperative. George Welsh, Executive Director of San Luis Valley BOCES (Board of Cooperative Education Services), explains how fourteen districts pooled resources to become Colorado’s first and oldest regional special education hub, and why their hybrid model of in-person and telehealth providers is now the blueprint for rural districts nationwide.

Noteable Quotes

“Small rural districts bind together and form a board of cooperative education services.” [00:00:25]

“We have some darn good in-person school sites and contract those individuals for extra needs.” [00:23:49]

“Not every kid wants to be college bound—some folks want to be career ready.” [00:15:15]

“We had folks who weren’t performing well and you guys jumped right in and supported us.” [00:25:25]

“Students are the reason we do what we do, and we have a 98% retention rate of therapists.” [00:27:48]

Full Episode Transcript

Brighter Together [00:00:01]
Hello everyone and welcome to the Brighter Together podcast. My special guest today is George Welsh. George is the executive director of San Luis Valley Boseys and that is currently in Alamos, Colorado. George, thank you for being on the show today.

George Welsh [00:00:19]
Th thanks for having me, Janet.

Brighter Together [00:00:21]
So the first question I’m gonna ask you is what is Boses?

George Welsh [00:00:25]
Yeah, Bose stands for Board of Cooperative Education Services.

Only two states I know have them are Colorado and New York. and the concept is, and and I’m sure there are a lot of other things like it around the country, the concept is small rural districts that can’t really provide their own services for special education, such as providing a school psychologist, bind together in a region and form form a board of cooperative education services. This all came about as a result of the

passage of the IDEA law back in the I think it was nineteen sixties and in fact the San Luis Valley Bose is the very first Bosees in the state of Colorado so it’s the first and the oldest.

Brighter Together [00:01:14]
And I’ve been there and it was lovely. We were there this summer and we got to have lunch with some of your crew and it was awesome. so tell me, George, a little bit about you and and then give me a give us a little bird’s eye view of kind of what goes on at San Luis Bose’s San Luis Valley Bose’s.

George Welsh [00:01:30]
Sure. my journey to where I am right now, I I taught nine years in Arizona. I grew up in Tucson, Arizona. As a matter of fact, came to Colorado in nineteen ninety six as a middle high principal in the school district center, which is part of the San Luis Valley Bose. in nineteen ninety seven I became superintendent of schools.

in center, stayed there for eighteen years in that position, moved to Canyon City, Colorado, in two thousand fifteen, served as superintendent of schools in Canyon City for seven years.

retired and wasn’t very good at it. A few years back, some folks from the San Luis Valley who I’ve still got pretty good history with reached out and asked if I’d be interested in doing this job and so I’ve been filling this role for two years now. I think all told is thirty eight years in education, maybe thirty nine

Brighter Together [00:02:14]
I hear you.

Brighter Together [00:02:31]
Nice. Yeah. You’ve got you’ve got about seven, eight years on me. I’ve been a speech pathologist since ninety four. So thirty well now it’s two. I guess it’s thirty two years. yeah. Yes, since the Clinton administration. Since before the

George Welsh [00:02:45]
Since the Clinton administration, right? people freak out when I say, I was superintendent when Clinton was president.

Brighter Together [00:02:53]
Yeah. I I was I always I always measure by like before what when when I graduated with my master’s, I went to Purdue University and you know, there was no internet. There was no Google. We didn’t have any of those things. And I remember as ’cause when you’re a speech therapist, you do a clinical fellowship year, they call it a C FY. And I remember my first job as a CFY, they s my supervisor at the time said, Hey, have you heard of this thing that’s called the internet?

George Welsh [00:03:22]
Yeah.

Brighter Together [00:03:23]
And I’m like, so that’s like that’s the one thing that I really remember. It’s like that was like the birth. And I remember the first time I went on the internet because I was looking for stuff related to speech therapy. And I was like, this is dumb. There’s nothing on there. Now. Right. Now we’ve got AI. So there you go. so you and I are the s you and I are a couple of the old schoolers, right?

George Welsh [00:03:38]
Yeah.

George Welsh [00:03:45]
Yeah, I guess so.

Brighter Together [00:03:46]
Yeah. You didn’t know that about me, huh? Awesome. So so tell us tell us a little bit about what what do you guys do there? I know you said you help districts and to provide special education services. So what does that look like in like the day to day of of how you guys operate?

George Welsh [00:03:49]
Didn’t, couldn’t.

George Welsh [00:04:06]
Yeah, that’s a great question. our primary role is providing special education services. we do more and would be be glad to talk a little bit about what that more is. but once again a a school district of 200 kids, 300 kids, they they don’t have the capacity to hire a school psychologist, s a speech language pathologist, an occupational therapist, a physical therapist.

hearing specialists, so on and on and on. And so we provide that for the San Luis Valley, and that means we’re very deeply involved in the process of identification for services and then providing services as we call it in an itinerant fashion. Each school district still has the responsibility of having a special education teacher to handle the less severe cases.

Brighter Together [00:04:58]
Mm-hmm.

George Welsh [00:05:08]
And so there’s a little bit of give and take as to what we provide for the school districts. Our funding model, by the way, is we receive special education dollars from the state, we receive federal special education dollars, and then we we have an assessment for each district that helps support our operations for special education as well.

Brighter Together [00:05:10]
Mm-hmm.

Brighter Together [00:05:33]
Yeah, yeah. And kids that parents live in really rural areas, don’t have to drive their child to a different district just to get services because you guys have the opportunity to provide those within their home district, correct? Yeah, yeah.

George Welsh [00:05:49]
To a great extent, our severe needs programs are center based and so some kids might have to do a fifteen mile commute to to to get access to such services. There there are some places where it it’s not offered in school districts.

Brighter Together [00:05:55]
Are they? Okay.

Brighter Together [00:06:04]
Yeah.

Brighter Together [00:06:08]
Well and that but but it’s not all of them. It’s not every single child which is and I understand that. It’s similar in when I l when I I lived in near Jackson, Michigan for nineteen years and an intermediate school district and ISD, similar to what you guys are. And all of the they always all had special needs classes in them where the children that were in the county that

George Welsh [00:06:12]
Correct.

Brighter Together [00:06:34]
wheelchair bound, severely impaired, severely autistic. Those ki are you know, kids that just ha w needed a one on one, had medically fragile, all of those kinds of kids would go to that center to get services. and that’s similar. Yeah.

George Welsh [00:06:49]
Yeah. And we’ve got I think altogether six center based programs for severe needs. We have a center based program for the valley for students with s significant emotional disabilities. and then we we even have a transition program for the more adult kids, nineteen through twenty-one sphere needs students to help them transition to into adulthood. So

Brighter Together [00:06:54]
Nice. Mm.

Brighter Together [00:07:15]
Right. Yeah. Yeah. That’s awesome.

George Welsh [00:07:17]
But if kid needs speech services, we deliver it in their school district. and boy the you know San Luis Valley geography is at least as big as Connecticut, you know, it’s several states probably we’re pretty close to in size. Fourteen school districts by the way. over yeah.

Brighter Together [00:07:37]
Wow. Wow. Fourteen. How many kids total?

George Welsh [00:07:43]
so total kids in the San Luis Valley are seven thousand five hundred. We serve about twelve hundred special education.

Brighter Together [00:07:53]
Wow. Yeah. It’s a lot of kids. It’s a lot of kids. And is it pre K through twelfth grade or is it start at kindergarten?

George Welsh [00:08:00]
Yeah, we do pre K services as well. We identify through child find students with needs in various ways and then we provide services, physical, occupational, speech services in their preschool programs if necessary.

Brighter Together [00:08:15]
Nice. Yeah, that’s awesome. That’s really awesome. I love that. and you have some really great news about what’s happening with your offices. You shared a little bit with me at the beginning of the show. That’s why I said, for now you’re in Alamosa, what’s happening there?

George Welsh [00:08:31]
Yeah, we Colorado has this wonderful program called Building Exc Excellent Schools Today and you can apply for grants to support construction projects. our our building that we use for the San Luis Valley Bose’s we’ve used I think since the early nineteen seventies. I I would if you’ve you’ve been there, you’ve seen it’s like a metal shed.

Brighter Together [00:08:53]
I’ve been there. Yeah, I was there. Yeah, it is. huh.

George Welsh [00:08:57]
mid century modern right with the the the the wood grain paneling and carpet that’s probably older than everyone in my family on and on. and so needing a new facility we applied for a grant that helped us purchase an old forest service facility in Monta Vista which is fifteen miles away to the west so still pretty close to the center of our service area

Brighter Together [00:08:59]
Yeah.

Brighter Together [00:09:05]
Mm. Narrow hallways and yeah, yeah.

George Welsh [00:09:27]
And what’s really nice about it is our foundations program, which is for students with significant emotional disabilities, and our foundation, or our sorry, our transitions program, which is that students 19th to 21 services. We’re going to have wonderful state-of-the-art classroom space there, and a major upgrade in our office space, and a really major upgrade in our boardroom, because as an organization,

We have a 14-member board, one board member from each school district serves on our board, and we have a superintendent advisory council, one superintendent or the superintendent of each school district in our service area. They meet as the SAC Superintendent Advisory Council on a monthly basis to advise us on our work.

Brighter Together [00:10:02]
that makes sense. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Brighter Together [00:10:23]
Nice. Yeah. Yeah. So so they have a pulse on what you guys are doing. They’re helping helping to pay the bill, so they wanna wanna know kind of know what you guys are doing. Yeah, I get that.

George Welsh [00:10:30]
Absolutely. Absolutely. In fact they set our goals each year in a an annual retreat.

Brighter Together [00:10:38]
Nice. Very cool. Very, very cool. so you have you have all of these services. So how many employees do you guys have at San Luis Valley Bose as far as like so covering everything that you do? ‘Cause you’re the executive director, so you gotta have some people under you. I know some of the people that are under you, but but yeah.

George Welsh [00:10:56]
Yeah. Yeah, well we bounce between a hundred and a hundred and twenty employees. as folks who work in special education know, what we need is dictated by what services we’re providing. have everything from classified, non certified folks who serve as paraprofessionals.

one of the a paraprofessional role when we work with an organization like lighthouse where we receive service providers digitally we have someone who goes to the school in person to support that digital service provider but we also have preschool special education teachers, we have teachers who

in our severe needs program and in our student for with with significant emotional disability programs. Then we have school psychs, some in-person speech language pathologists, some not, some in-person occupational therapists, some not, all the way down the line.

Brighter Together [00:11:55]
Yep. Mm-hmm.

Brighter Together [00:12:02]
Yeah. That’s a lot of people. It’s a lot of people to keep track of for sure. ’cause they’re all over too. You’ve got them. So they don’t all necessarily live right there. I mean, I’m I’m assuming you’ve got people in all different parts of the the the valley.

George Welsh [00:12:06]
Yeah.

George Welsh [00:12:16]
Yeah, yeah. We we for example we have severe needs programs in Monta Vista, in La Hara, in Alamosa, in Center, and it sometimes it’s best to hire a paraprofessional to support that program who lives in that community. it’s wonderful if you can hire a teacher to support that program who lives in that community. Not not always possible. Some folks have to commute, but but yeah, we’ve got spread out all over the place.

Brighter Together [00:12:33]
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Brighter Together [00:12:39]
Right.

Brighter Together [00:12:44]
Yeah, yeah, for sure. I get it. I totally get it. Yeah, it’s it’s it’s a challenge every year. And it’s it’s it’s never a it’s always a shifting target, right? It’s cause it ’cause you do based on what the needs of the kids that you have. So you have lots of experience doing this and being a superintendent and being you know, as long as you’ve been in education. I’d love to get your insight on how how do you see education changing and and

What kinds of things have you seen that are you’re seeing now that you wouldn’t have seen at the beginning of your career? Because there is so much knowledge that I, you know, you and I, having done what we’ve done as long as we do, I’d love to like just pick your bang just a little bit about that because I think people need to the younger generation who are amazing need to know that it wasn’t always this way, right?

George Welsh [00:13:37]
Yeah, Janet, maybe you can help me recall what what the n catchphrase was for federal programs during the Clinton administration, but I have a recollection that a big focus was class size reduction, you know. And then under the the

the second Bush administration, it became no child left behind. And then under Obama it was raced to the top. And I don’t even know w what what the current catchphrase

Brighter Together [00:14:00]
The bush, yeah, it was child plant. Yeah, no child left behind. Yeah. Yeah.

Brighter Together [00:14:13]
I know he’s bringing back the because we did that when we were kids was the the jeez, I wonder what the name of it is either, but you know, the fitness tests that we took. How many push ups and pull ups and how far how how long does it take you to run a mile or a half a mile or whatever it is? I I n I was never I I got little girl arms. I was never able to do I was lucky if I did one pull up.

George Welsh [00:14:24]
Okay. Sure. Sure.

George Welsh [00:14:34]
Mm-hmm.

Brighter Together [00:14:37]
I could do push ups and I could do sit ups, but that those pull-ups, those are the boys the boys’ job, not mine.

George Welsh [00:14:43]
Yeah. But

Out of no child left behind though, I I feel like a major focus was preparing every kid for college in some way. And that’s how states ultimately built these accreditation models. Colorado has one, districts get a school performance framework, school get a district performance framework and schools get a school performance framework, D Pf for district, S Pf for schools. And that’s still

Brighter Together [00:15:13]
Okay.

George Welsh [00:15:15]
impacts, whether you’re on the

watch clock for accreditation in Colorado, how ultimately your students are performing on standardized tests and at the high school that means ultimately SAT or PSAT. What do I think is really happening right now? I think people have woken up to the fact that not every kid wants to be or needs to be college bound. Some folks want to be career ready. And I feel like there’s been pretty

Brighter Together [00:15:44]
Right.

Brighter Together [00:15:48]
Mm-hmm.

George Welsh [00:15:50]
strong movement in the past five or six years to offer young men and women an opportunity to explore careers. We call it career connected learning, where you know maybe you want to be a doctor and so that’s going to require college. Maybe you want to be a CNA and so that really requires at most community college and certification. Maybe you want to be a welder, you know, but

Maybe you want to be an engineer. And so I’m excited about that. I’m excited that we’re trying to create workforce and we’re trying to create opportunities for students to leave high school and maybe experience a little bit more trade school or college or go right into a career at this point, which I think is outstanding. And so in fact, in Colorado, across

Brighter Together [00:16:25]
Yeah.

Brighter Together [00:16:41]
Mm-hmm.

George Welsh [00:16:49]
Accreditation at the high school level is starting to show that any opportunities like industry certification earning that you provide students is something that counts favorably toward your accreditation at the high school level. And because of that, Janet, we’re we’re we have this whole other wing of the San Luis Valley Boseys right now where

Brighter Together [00:17:05]
nice. Yeah.

George Welsh [00:17:16]
We’re trying to broker collaboration between school districts and we’re trying to expand workplace learning opportunities for students via intern apprentice opportunities, concurrent enrollment, which is that geared toward getting a kid ready for and even earning a college credit while in high school. but it’s also about earning industry certification so you can go right into a job market. You could be a mechanic, you

Brighter Together [00:17:24]
Local businesses, right? Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

George Welsh [00:17:46]
You could be a welder, you could be a builder, you can work in certain business platforms, you can work in certain certain certain medical platforms. We even just got an innovation grant where we’re going to share out a aviation program that one of our schools has, and now it’s going to be available to all schools in the San Luis Valley because of the work we’ve been doing to make sure that that opportunity is expanded to others to more students.

Brighter Together [00:18:03]
neat.

Brighter Together [00:18:15]
Congratulations. That’s fantastic. I’ll tell you the beauty of what I’ve seen. And I love the fact that we’re talking about this because, you know, you and I we understand special education and IDA, Individual with Disability Education Act. That’s the federal law that that I’m I’m not I’m preaching to the choir here, but you know, that that drives special education. You and I know that. and so an IEP, an individualized education plan, you know, every but what I’m seeing is

George Welsh [00:18:34]
Yeah, yeah.

Brighter Together [00:18:45]
That’s not all just special education anymore. I really am seeing exactly what you’re talking about, where we’re looking at an individualized education plan for every student. Really looking at what makes you tick. You don’t have to go to college if you don’t want to go to college. And good grief, it’s expensive. So

George Welsh [00:18:56]
Right.

Brighter Together [00:19:07]
Don’t waste that money. There’s nothing worse than getting a year and a half and you don’t get a degree. And now you still got a year and a half of student loans to pay back and you’re not making any more money than you were before. So helping them to understand, I mean, I I didn’t know I I was 17 when I graduated from high school. And I went to college for a year, I quit for a year, I went back part-time for a year, and then I finally, once I got a little bit older, figured out what I wanted to do. But I didn’t graduate with my degree until I was 26 years old.

George Welsh [00:19:16]
Right.

Brighter Together [00:19:34]
And that was my master’s, you know, as a speech pathologist, you have to have your master’s. And I I love the fact that there are absolutely programs to get you to that. You have to have a degree to be a speech pathologist. You have to have a degree to do what you’re doing, to be an executive director. It’s there’s an admin degree and and certifications and all of that as well. But there’s but there are people that make more than we do as welders.

I mean, I live in we’re we’re in the oil fields here. Those guys, especially those ones that go out on those rigs, it’s so dangerous. But they make so much money because they have such a dangerous job, but they’re doing it because that’s what they want to do or that’s what they know, you know. And that doesn’t take a college education.

George Welsh [00:19:58]
Yeah.

George Welsh [00:20:12]
And AI hadn’t caught up to taking that away as well. there’s many of these career opportunities that exist are you know, at least for for for you know, ten, fifteen years, that we’re not we don’t have to worry about them going away. Meanwhile you can become a lawyer and if you want some good legal advice, just open up chat GPT and ask a lot of questions and you can probably get there, you know.

Brighter Together [00:20:37]
Yeah, right.

Yeah, exactly. It’s changing. I mean and tech is changing too. my gosh, yes. So much, so much different. And AI is changing and that’s a landscape that is and and we’re embracing it. Lighthouse is definitely embracing it. but it’s just you it’s it’s you either you either embrace change or you get left behind. And and it’s important because these kids they don’t they don’t they don’t know like cell phones like this. To them a phone is

George Welsh [00:20:59]
Yeah.

Brighter Together [00:21:07]
Bring it up to your ear. I was, I was making for those of you that are listening, I was putting a little little thumb and like a hook horns kind of thing here in Texas. You know, you put that to your ear because it’s a receiver. Kids today, they don’t, they don’t have receivers. They have a square box that they use and that’s what they put up their phone. So it’s just, it’s just interesting how, you know, and and the another thing, I’m a speech therapist, so you I’m just like I notice, I noticed trend changes in language and welcome in. Have you heard that? Welcome in.

George Welsh [00:21:10]
Yeah, what is

George Welsh [00:21:15]
Ha ha ha.

Brighter Together [00:21:35]
This is the new welcome, you know. When did that come about? I don’t know when welcome in became the new, hey, welcome to the shop. Glad you’re here. You know, it’s all every place I go. It’s welcome in. Okay. Well, that’s good, it’s fine. It’s a nice, it’s a nice saying, I guess. But it’s change. Again, it’s change, right? You just go, we gotta we’ve either adapted the change or we get left behind for sure. So so I do wanna touch just briefly, if you don’t mind, on the fact that you let lighthouse therapy.

George Welsh [00:21:42]
Well redundant, right?

Brighter Together [00:22:05]
Lighthouse Therapy LLC, my company that that sponsors this works with you guys. And we started partnering with you guys last year. And I am so grateful, George. I have to first of all I say that because anytime someone takes a an a a chance on a company like ours, because we’re, you know, we’re we’re small. We’re I guess we’re not small anymore, but I still feel small. We’re family owned and we’re we’re not, you know, we have no investors.

So when a when a school and you guys are bigger, you know, you guys got a lot of kids. how was that for you? Looking back, what is the biggest value and why did you decide to go with Lighthouse for your school? Maybe you know, maybe you I I’m assuming you were involved in that decision. I guess I should have prepped you for that question, but just curious.

George Welsh [00:22:47]
Yeah. Yeah. And I’m sorry if I don’t know exactly when we started, but I mean we approach our budget from a standpoint of how can we get the most out of it.

Brighter Together [00:23:00]
Mm-hmm.

George Welsh [00:23:03]
my world when I was superintendent of schools in the San Luis Valley up through two thousand fifteen and part of the BOCIS, we had all in person providers as recent as two thousand fifteen and I’m sure the pandemic changed things a lot. and when I came into this position two years ago, I got a lot of our superintendents coming at us. We would really like to have an in person, you know.

Brighter Together [00:23:14]
Mm-hmm.

George Welsh [00:23:33]
individual who can can support us and the fact of the matter is it’s almost impossible to fill a whole staff that way and so what we do have some darn good in-person school sites we have one full-time two part-time and now an intern who we’re building her up to hopefully eventually take a full-time position but what’s really nice about lighthouse

Brighter Together [00:23:49]
Yes, absolutely.

George Welsh [00:24:03]
Is then with our extra needs, you we can go in and we can tell you what we need and we can contract those individuals. and we’re able to do that with speech language pathologists, with physical therapists, on and on. and and so it helps us to fill those gaps around what we could otherwise provide for in our organization. this is the first year I’ve been part of the

Brighter Together [00:24:20]
Mm-hmm.

George Welsh [00:24:32]
Newell of the well one one cool thing that you guys offer, and it actually works for us because we get state money right up front. we don’t have to wait monthly to receive those dollars. We and we get the federal dollars on reimbursement. And if you can pay right up front, get a pretty good discount. And that matters to an organization. You can save three to five percent on your expenses for certain types of employees. Why wouldn’t you take advantage of that?

Brighter Together [00:24:53]
Yes. Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

George Welsh [00:25:02]
so that’s that’s fantastic as well. And what we found in the renewal process this year, and I think it’s worked this way, and it sure seems to have been something that’s been receptive on your end. we had one or two folks who just like every organization has wasn’t performing well, and so we addressed that directly with you guys, and you guys jumped right in and supported to either make that person better or ultimately recommend a change so that we were getting the

Brighter Together [00:25:25]
One thousand percent, yeah.

George Welsh [00:25:32]
services we need. That’s outstanding and it makes life easier on our end. The other piece though is we’ve had some great people and we want to keep And so we went from the approach this year when we don’t know what all we’re gonna need yet, but let’s lock in those people who we love. And we went to said we want to make sure these people come back because we’re getting good feedback from our our district partners that these folks are doing well. And so I mean I feel like

Brighter Together [00:25:42]
Mm-hmm.

Brighter Together [00:25:50]
Yeah. And we have I think six or seven of yeah. Yeah.

Brighter Together [00:25:59]
А сам.

George Welsh [00:26:02]
i i if the world were perfect we would have people knocking down our door applying for these positions and wanting to to to do them in person. however that’s not a reality and so we’re getting some people who are willing to do the work some doing it at a high level and some we’re able to bring back as a result of that and that’s that’s wonderful.

Brighter Together [00:26:11]
Mm-hmm.

Brighter Together [00:26:22]
Yeah. Well, thank you. I appreciate that. Because, you know, it’s one of those things where it’s like we have, believe it or not, and I was telling I I was like, when they told my you know, you can do anything with statistics. You can play around with numbers. Statistics are are it doesn’t you know, any way you want to look at it, if you break the numbers down, you can make them the way you want them to be. But one of the things that I loved, and it is a statistic based on we had people that we absolutely are not bringing back. And some of them were people that you guys had because they just didn’t.

do as well as we would want them to. And they we tried to coach some of them and some of them we we survived this the year, but we’re like, okay, we’re not doing that again next year. Let’s get somebody new who can do a better job. Because ultimately for us, and and and I’m sure this is the same for you guys, we partner with you. It isn’t just us coming and dropping a student and or a therapist and saying, here you go, I’m good, I’ll send you the bill. No, we make sure that we’re supporting that therapist and that school

Because ultimately they come together to serve those children, right? The students are the reason that we do what we do, right? And so we have a 98% retention rate of therapists that come back year over year over year. And I love that because it’s those people, they love what we’re doing. We take care of them because our mission is to be a therapy company run by therapists for therapists for the betterment of students, always bringing back why do we do what we do to serve.

George Welsh [00:27:29]
Nice.

Brighter Together [00:27:48]
kids to serve students. And so having an opportunity to work with a district that that feels the same way and loves the kids and wants what’s best for these 14 different schools and and trusts us to do that over and over again is is a beautiful thing. And I love the fact that we can do that. And that that you know that you’re willing to come in and talk to me about the amazing things that you’re doing, but also talk to us about what what makes it work. So yeah. Yeah.

George Welsh [00:28:16]
My pleasure.

Brighter Together [00:28:19]
Thank you. So so with that in mind, where do people go if they want to learn more about San Luis Valley Boseis? Where do they go?

George Welsh [00:28:27]
Yeah, we have a very simple website. It’s S L Vosees and Bosees is B O C E S dot org. and you can learn about the organization and how it began and you can also meet our entire staff through through that website and you can reach out and access us. We have a portal, you know, where you can

Contact me directly and other employees. Yeah. And and it also will show you who all our partner districts are.

Brighter Together [00:28:59]
Awesome.

Awesome. Yeah, because there’s fourteen of them. So thank you so much, George. it has been an absolute pleasure to have this conversation with you, your insight. you know, I as the show says, you know, we’re brighter together for sure.

George Welsh [00:29:04]
Yeah. Yeah.

George Welsh [00:29:16]
Yeah. Thanks for having me.

Brighter Together [00:29:18]
Absolutely. All right.

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